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Eggbert Nobacon 12:20 Thu Jul 30
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Nothing wrong in his comments, but it's us so no doubt be made into a bigger story than it should
West Ham manager Slaven Bilic claims those responsible for Croatian swastika controversy are 'not racist'
West Ham United manager Slaven Bilić has become embroiled in controversy after claiming those responsible for painting a swastika on a Croatian football pitch were 'not racist'.
The symbol, which has been associated with Nazi Germany since World War II, appeared before Croatia's Euro 2016 qualifier against Italy and resulted in the country being docked one point and being ordered to play two matches behind closed doors.
Uefa branded the occurrence as 'racist behaviour' while Davor Suker, the Croatian Football Federation (CFF) president and ex-Hammers striker, moved swiftly to condemn the vandalism.
Bilić insists the culprits were not racists, however, and instead suggested they were attention seekers looking to capitalise on the social media generation.
"I do not think that [those responsible] are racist," the former Croatia boss said.
"They are doing it just for the sake of doing it. Because, nowadays, with this media, if you do something you are on YouTube all over the world, and you find yourself a hero for that group of people.
"Some people wrote that [Croatia] are racist, but of course we are not racist. We are everything but racist. And you cannot say that Croatian fans are racist. I do not know how many of them are- maybe ten, or one hundred- but it is no more than that who are doing these things."
Croatian football’s ruling body have repeatedly come under fire from international anti-discrimination bodies for failing to respond to such incidents but Bilić refused to condemn the CFF.
"I cannot really blame the Croatian Football Association," he added. "I am a Croatian, and I am from Split, and I know that the FA is trying and that the government are trying to sort things out.
"They are trying, but it is impossible to stop somebody yelling when they are stood in the stand."
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Hermit Road
7:29 Thu Jul 30
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hammerintheorient 6:25 Thu Jul 30
A swastika in Croatia has a different meaning to one in Calcutta.
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icwhs
7:00 Thu Jul 30
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Sold
Not that unusual really, they'd just come out of a civil war, must have left bitter scares.
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Northern Sold
6:40 Thu Jul 30
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We spent a day drinking with a bunch of Croats during Euro 96.... can honestly say out of any group of fans I have ever met they were the ones I felt unease with... probably as the majority were ex military who loved telling a story of their times fighting the Serbs...total different kettle of fish to any other mob we have met..
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hammerintheorient
6:31 Thu Jul 30
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It could have been kids, couldn't it? And they could have done it knowing it was a bit of a 'naughty' symbol in order to get attention as he is suggesting ... I think he is just trying to say 'social media' and all the 'attention whoring' it raises to ridiculous levels is to blame and I make him right ...
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hammerintheorient
6:25 Thu Jul 30
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I think he's making a fair point.
All the hysterical stuff makes Europeans appear ridiculous. It is and forever will be an Eastern symbol meaning 'good luck/fortune', etc and a crazy Austrian hijacking it for 20-30 years will have no bearing on its long-term meaning and importance. I believe it goes back 12,000 years?
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Hermit Road
4:38 Thu Jul 30
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There is something wrong with his comments. How does he know their motivation, and if you don't know and have a brain, it's fair to say that the swastika in a European context is the vilest symbol out there. If course it's racist and what is to be gained by saying otherwise?
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riosleftsock
4:33 Thu Jul 30
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"Croats, Serbs and Turks are backwards as fuck when it comes to flags and nationalism"
I never found that true of the croats, and i have been there a fair bit.
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Danish Hammer
4:28 Thu Jul 30
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It was Carlsberg's logo until 1935. Just saying.
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Billy Blagg
4:11 Thu Jul 30
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Stupid thing to say. Of course, you can always call on the 'not everyone is like that' and 'why make the majority suffer for the sins of the few' clause. We know that; it's not the issue. Just a condemnation about the swastika would have sufficed. It deserved nothing more and shouldn't have been given any more, Bilic has embroiled himself in something he should have been smart enough to avoid.
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13 Brentford Rd
4:07 Thu Jul 30
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I make Billic wrong on this!
There are a thousand other and better ways to get attention than painting a giant swastika on a football pitch. Who would bother doing that unless they meant it.
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whufcroe
3:11 Thu Jul 30
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"A lot of Croats fans are cunts and racist ones at that."
Know lots of Croat fans?
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Hani
3:10 Thu Jul 30
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I don't think so, you just have to look at St George day to see that. English get it about right we are not over the top like the Turks or Croats.
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TrevorSeader1980
3:03 Thu Jul 30
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Hani, the same can be said of any nation, certainly true of the English, Taffs and Jocks (if you see what I mean)
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Hani
2:14 Thu Jul 30
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Croats, Serbs and Turks are backwards as fuck when it comes to flags and nationalism. A lot of Croats fans are cunts and racist ones at that.
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,
2:02 Thu Jul 30
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Nothing wrong with being nationalistic or proud of your origins.
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Westham67
1:58 Thu Jul 30
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They were at war for their survival not so long ago. People from theat region are bound to be Nationalistic
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,
1:53 Thu Jul 30
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Whatever the view of Bilic Croatia has been fined by Eufa in the past for the racist behaviour of its football fans.
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ludo21
1:43 Thu Jul 30
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He's just creating the right atmosphere for the return of PDC in a coaching capacity.
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Rodfarts
1:38 Thu Jul 30
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What was his IQ again?
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stirlinghammer
1:09 Thu Jul 30
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darby, stop being a massive anti jewistic person
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Darby_
1:08 Thu Jul 30
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I condemn everyone's who's posted on this thread, including myself for not condemning Nazism.
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